David Pitts and
Henry Little have been working together for several years,
this past season they appeared on Jim Zajicek's Big Circus
Sideshow in Austin TX. I would like to thank David for
taking his time to do this interview
First off take your time and just answer the questions like I'm
a stranger, like we just met, like I don't know anything, OK?
I just have to act like you don't know anything?
Like you're a total ignoramus? A complete idiot?
An absolute moron, utterly without a clue, dumb as a box of
I can do that.
Ok. So what
do you prefer to be called?
Mr. Little to you, we just met, remember?
I mean do you prefer "Ventriloquist Figure",
Some people call us
'Wooden Americans" or 'Mannequin Americans". Speaking for
myself, onstage I like "dummy", there's always a way to turn
that around and get a laugh out of it. That's what I'm about,
getting laughs, that's what I was made for.
So you were born to be a comedian?
built, assembled.. whatever, yeah!
Regarding that very thing, what was your first memory? Was it
before or after I built you? Do you remember being just parts or
My first memory was when your wife saw me for the first time.
Right, I had stayed up late finishing your paint and installing
your eyes. She hadn't seen you all put together before that
morning. Do you remember her response?
She screamed. You should have warned her. I don't think she ever
got over the initial shock, she still doesn't like me.
Do you think she's afraid of you?
No, she just doesn't like me.
Have you ever encountered someone who was genuinely afraid of
Like a real phobia?
Automotonaphobia, fear of automatons.. puppets. People who
have this fear are called Automotonophobes.
Thank you Mr. Know-It-All. Yeah, I've met a few people who were
kind of creeped out by ventriloquist dummies. I've met a lot
more people who are creeped out by ventriloquists though.
Really? What are they called?
But seriously, have you ever encountered anyone who had a real
phobia of puppets?
You're talking about that girl at our very first show together,
right. Yeah, that girl, a high school age kid. Well, there we
were, there you were really, doing your circus show for this
group of high school kids, idiot that you are, you're a brave
idiot though, I'll give you that. The show's actually going ok.
I could hear them laughing from inside my suitcase where I'm
waiting to go on. That was my old suitcase, the one you got from
Goodwill. I guess that was my first apartment really. It smelled
like dirty socks, just like everybody's first apartment.
But that's beside the point.
The journey is the point, Grass-hopper, not the destination. Let
me tell it like I tell it...So I'm laying there in my stinky suitcase apartment, and I hear
you introducing me, that bit you do about needing to make a new
Out of wood..
Right, and then I start hearing this girls voice, at least I
think it's a girl, she sounds like some kind of animal. She's
doing this low whine that starts turning into almost a wailing
sound, primal fear is what I'm hearing. I hear you ask her if
she's afraid of ventriloquist dummies. She says 'yes', but she
tells you it's ok and to go ahead with the act. I hear you say
"are you sure?" and I'm thinking ABORT ABORT ABORT, MAYDAY
MAYDAY! But you have absolutely no sense, so you open the case
and get me out and there she goes, trying to crawl underneath
the kid next to her, and doing that primal moaning thing louder
So what did you do.
What COULD I do? I started doing the jokes.
Did it work?
No, we DIED, it was horrible. Thanks for dredging up this
painful memory. I layed there in my suitcase the rest of the
show wishing I WAS dead. I was going to quit show business.
But you didn't quit.
You wouldn't let me. You needed the money and we were getting
bookings. We are in great demand by people who don't know any
How did you get over the first show? How were you able to move
on from there and get on stage again?
I realized that the fiasco of our first show wasn't my fault,..
it was yours. Once I saw that I got over my fear. That's the
great thing about having a partner, I always know who to blame.
Have the shows gotten better?
Oh yeah, way better. It's not so bad I guess, to do the worst
show you can imagine the first time out. Then you're done with
that and it can only get better. The audience at our last
show even asked for me to do an encore. It was great. I really
love a good show, a great audience and a good show, man, there's
nothing better than that.
So what's changed?
Our timing's better. The costuming's better, that makes a
difference too. Mostly our material's just better.
What kind of material do you like to do?
Old fashioned, straight ahead comedy. Set-up, punch-line stuff,
it still works great. People like it, they get it. I learned
that from Ward Hall, it was great advice. Another thing that
works great is just flirting with the girls and picking on the
guys in the audience. But that works best with adult audiences.
Do you ever do 'blue' material with adult audiences?
Dirty stuff, nah. I know I have some kind of reputation for
that, and I got nothing against a good dirty joke backstage or
in the backyard, but on stage I'm strictly Sunday School. If
you're a forty miler, like we are, you gotta work clean. If you
don't, the church groups and civic clubs you're doing shows for,
they might laugh, but they won't book you again.
You mention your 'reputation', how did you get a reputation for
A reprobate, a dissolute Pinocchio born and raised on Pleasure
Island without even a cricket to serve as my conscience?
Hernan and the Yahoo group. I posted a couple of times and that
damn Hernan just jumps all over it, starts talking about me like
I'm his girlfriend or something.
Did that bother you?
Hah, no, not me. I'm a puppet, what do I care about that stuff.
I kind of like the bad boy rep. It's YOU that's all
uncomfortable with Hernan's sense of humor.
No, I think Hernan's funny, he can just be kind of over-the-top
Uh huh, sure. That's why you're always going on about how you're
the 'straight man' and I'm the 'funny guy', sounds a little
like overcompensating to me.
..He said, changing the subject
I know you finally got to meet Hernan, the one who started all
those rumors. What did you say to him?
I said "Hello Hernan.... you bastard". He laughed
Tell us more about that day.
It was the best. Jim Zajicek invited us to come perform at the
Big Circus Sideshow when they were in Austin. He even helped us
write our bally. Good stuff too, I'm still using some of those
lines. We got to meet and hang out with Jim, Lori Ballard, Josh,
Mark, Rick West and Gatorman, and of course Hernan. We worked
the bally off and on all day, visited, just a great day. I
stayed right there on the bally stage while Hernan blew huge
blasts of fire. I guess I got over my fear of fire and Hernan
both. Lori and Rick took lots of great shots. It was a perfect
day. Perfect. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. I'd stay longer
too if you weren't so whipped.
I have responsibilities at home.
Yeah, yeah. We're going to be forty milers forever aren't we?
Probably, but I'd like to hear about your goals anyway.
I'd like to get paid, David, that's my main goal right now.
I'd like to try comedy clubs. I want to help you write that
pitchcard comic book you've been talking about.
Hopefully we can do
some work on Barbara Hoffmann's show soon too.
Plus I really want
to put together a sideshow or a museum of some kind.
I want us to frame a
show. I'll do the bally, you sell the tickets.
I love sideshows, I
love circuses. I have sawdust in my veins... literally.
Thanks for taking
your time to do this interview Henry. I couldn't have said
it better myself!
Interview by David Pitts
for Sideshow World
Header - by JR
of Lori Ballard ©2008 copyright - All rights reserved
Henry Working the
Tip with his assistant David Pitts
Henry in the
backyard of the Big Circus Sideshow
David and Henry
David Pitts and
Henry and David just
the two of us
The Group shot in
Austin TX of the Big Circus Sideshow - Left to right - James
Zajicek, Josh Bladzik, Henry Little, David Pitts, Hernan
Cortez, Mark Pierson bottom Lori Ballard
with Julius Squeezer.
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